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bobevanuk Program updating
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Flash Player and MS XML Core shown as "updating" . I have tried to update Flash Player, shutting down programs, browsers etc but Flash Player still appears after installing the latest version and rescanning. I admit I did not close down Kasperki Internet Security, should I have done?

I have two PCs both using Windows XP Professional SP3.

The programs update ok on one PC but not on the other.

This problem didn't happen with the previous versions of Secunia so is a fix being worked or are we to continue with this workround, which does not seem to have worked for me on one of my PCs.

Maurice Joyce RE: Program updating
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I take it that you have solved the MSXML issue?

What path does PSI give you for the vulnerable Flash file?

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bobevanuk RE: Program updating
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I did not try to resolve the MSXML problem when the Adobe Flash rectification did not work.

The description in respect of the latter is;

C:\Windows\system32macromed\Flash\32_11_3_300_271. ocx

Installed version:

11.3.300.271(ActivX)
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jonw9 RE: Program updating
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I have a similar problem. Secunia wants about six updates to various versions of MSXML and another update to Adobe Flash Player.

I think that Secunia has gone downhill badly. I've enjoyed it for several years, but it no longer works. The old format always worked and was vastly better, These "updating" indicators always fail. They should go back to six months ago and leave a good thing alone!
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MikeWarner RE: Program updating
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I'm having the same issue as Bobeyvanuk with Adobe Flash Player and MSXML. I'm running PSI v.3.0.0.3001 on a 64-bit Win7 machine. PSI shows my current Flash Player version as 11.3.300.271 and the new version as 11.4.402.265, and my current MSXML version as 4.20.9876.0 and the new version as 4.30.2100.0. PSI shows the path to Flash Player as C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32_11_3_30 0_271.dll, and the path to MSXML as C:\Windows\SysWOW64\msxml4.dll.
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Maurice Joyce RE: Program updating
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Adobe Flash gets itself in a muddle if elements are still running when any update is attempted. It tends to leave behind old vulnerable files.

I would suggest U all use the traditional tried & tested method to quickly clear out the muddle.

UPDATING THE STANDALONE ADOBE FLASH PLAYER

1. Download & SAVE these to desktop.

IE & Other Browsers using ActiveX.

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...

& then here, if U have any other type of browser that does not have Flash embedded.

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...

2. The installer will appear on the desk top. THE IMPORTANT BIT - Before agreeing to install Flash check these programmes are completely shut down (use the Task Manager if necessary (CTRL+SHIFT+ESC) to COMPLETELY EXIT these processes if running)):
a. All Browsers.
b. Windows Messenger.
c. Microsoft Skype & Plus! For Skype
d. Incredimail.
e. All Adobe Products.
f. PSI - Unless using version 2 or version 3

3. The new install will then remove all old files during the update process.

4. Complete a full PSI rescan & all should be in order.

Optional - Go to Start>Control Panel>click the Flash Player (32 Bit) icon>check the settings are to your requirements.



UPDATING MSXML 4.0

MSXML4 was shipped as an independent, downloadable SDK targeted at Independent Software Vendors and third parties. It is an upgrade for but not a replacement to MSXML3 as version 3 still provides legacy features. Versions 6,4 and 3 may be run concurrently.

MSXML 4.0 SP3 is the most recent version released in March 2009.IT WAS NOT OFFERED BY WINDOWS UPDATE & REQUIRES A MANUAL INSTALL. SP2 support expired in April 2010.

The download link (clearly marked MSXML.MSI - 2.3 MB) is here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx...

Please note this SP was released before Windows 7 was produced therefore there is no mention of compatibility - it works flawlessly with Windows 7 on both 32 & 64 Bit systems

Now run Windows Update - there are some additional patches for SP3.

Once installed run a full PSI scan & PSI will pick it up as secure with version 4.30.2114.0

Update 2 08:04 28/08/2012

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pengwyn RE: Program updating
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bobevanuk RE: Program updating
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I remembered I had uninstalled and reinstalled Secunia on my other PC that is now updating ok.

The other methods having failed, I did the same with the problem PC. Lo and behold!; everything has updated and Secunia is working fine on both PCs: )
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Maurice Joyce RE: Program updating
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Good news - have you also fixed MSXML now?

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pengwyn RE: Program updating
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Dear ADOBE CEO, ya think I'm kidding?

The Adobe Flash Player Update Service service entered the stopped state.
The Adobe Flash Player Update Service service was successfully sent a start control.
The Adobe Flash Player Update Service service entered the running state.


flooding my logs..... Flooding.... 1:03A, 2:03, 3:03, 4:03 ...
...12:03, 1:03A

yet.. with all that noise, the updater still fails, still has glitches, still can't work right.
can't ya kill explorer.exe and all processes, update, and bring it back up? Other than the occasional DCOM error (which I am purposely causing) your log entry is the only one making all this noise.

Well that's why I'm making noise, the CEO of ADOBE needs to get his head out of the champagne and coke, and give it the whole nine yards, FIX FLASH RIGHT NOW.

IT Sec.. what a joke.
Tech insight, for creativity, I give ya a 100%, but for security I give you a 0%

He said he has "leadership, technology insight, and operational expertise."

Come on Shantanu, lets see that leadership, lets see some tech insight, and operational expertise! The only thing I am seeing is a photoshop of your car with four flat tires stuck in a ditch! Meanwhile, the glitched patches cause mayhem and chaos on a daily basis.

While I WANT to love you, all I can do is stew.
That's it, I won't say anymore on this.
I said my piece. It's my truth even if you don't see it that way.
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bobevanuk RE: Program updating
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on 28th Aug, 2012 09:53, Maurice Joyce wrote:
Good news - have you also fixed MSXML now?


Yes MSXML fixed. All working ok.
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Maurice Joyce RE: Program updating
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Pleased to see you are now all fixed up.

To protect your mail box from more updates/edits from tag on posts you now have the option to lock this thread or I can do it for you.

Just click the ACCEPT button in the post of the helper who offered U the best solution/advice to solve your problem or request I close it.

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jonwells RE: Program updating
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Maurice,

Thank you very much. I reloaded Secunia 2.0, and was then able to manually update Adobe Flash. I used your link to update MSMXL, and that one install cleared all five MSMXL updates requested by Secunia. (Under the newest Secunia, trying to update just took me to Windows Updates which had nothing to install.)

Back to 100%.

Jon
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MikeWarner RE: Program updating
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Very professionally handled Maurice, thanks :)
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